### Log session started at Sat 21. Aug 20:00:22 2004 ### [23:09:03] Thank you for joining us at the CAcert AGM. I am Duane Groth, and I'm the chairman for this meeting. The meeting will now start, and I would like to ask that everyone address their comments to the chair, and not interject. [23:10:00] First order of business is the formal announcement of the board, there was no objections or otherwise, and only 1 single person for each position so no need for a vote to be held either [23:10:42] the board for the next 12 months is as follows. [23:10:42] [23:10:42] President: Groth, Duane [23:10:42] Vice President: Lipscombe, Mark [23:10:42] Secretary: Hunt, J. Wren [23:10:42] Treasurer: Martin, Chris [23:10:42] Ordinary Member: Asham, Matthew [23:10:42] Ordinary Member: Morrell, Calum [23:10:42] Ordinary Member: Reilly, Nathan [23:12:50] Second order of business was membership nominations, I have only seen 1 membership pending that I have seen a nomination for [23:14:20] Eric Bennett [23:15:15] Motion for board members: should this user be admitted as a member of CAcert, Inc.? [23:15:26] i second [23:16:10] yes [23:16:14] yes [23:16:15] aye [23:16:17] yes [23:16:20] aye [23:16:31] yes [23:16:50] I declare the motion carried [23:17:39] Next order of business is confirming of previous minutes (http://www.cacert.org/meetings/20040729.txt) [23:17:50] i second [23:18:06] or, swap that... i move it [23:18:15] seeing as no one has done so yet [23:18:24] i second [23:18:24] I second [23:18:40] aye [23:18:42] yes [23:18:44] yes [23:18:48] aye [23:19:07] yes [23:19:11] sure [23:19:15] I declare the motion carried [23:19:55] Next order of business, is there any statements which need to be received and considered by the members? [23:20:12] *are [23:20:16] not is [23:21:29] not from me as yet [23:21:45] nor I [23:22:09] nay [23:23:05] The chair recognises correspondence from Christian Barmala and Adam Butler tendering their resignation from the association, and asks that the secretary strike them from the members roll. [23:23:40] Correspondence recognized. [23:24:34] Last order of business is the financial report, since there is no previous board to report on activities [23:25:24] The financial report which I drew up earlier can be found http://www.cacert.org/reports/cacert0304.pdf [23:26:54] if there is no objections I'll bring the meeting to a close [23:27:05] i don't think that report is complete [23:27:23] what's missing? [23:27:35] asset values [23:27:45] balances at start of financial year [23:27:52] there was no balance [23:28:02] then state that [23:28:45] the asset register is a seperately maintained document for an association, and is open to inspection by members, but is not required to be tabled at the AGM as part of the financials [23:29:04] hmm [23:29:26] i'm not sure what is required, so i'll have to leave it at that [23:29:37] also [23:29:47] there is no mentioning of the donation by NLnet [23:29:51] however, the assets amount to a four domain names & a server... plus intangibles like the root certificate [23:30:04] donations were summerised [23:30:30] it's customary in financial reports to summarise each type of income and expense, rather than having 300 pages of rubbish listing each individual transaction [23:31:03] i have found it's customary to have an abridged version, and a 300 page version [23:31:38] the 300 page version in a public company's annual report is what we've fit into a page... they don't list every transaction [23:31:50] i thought the donations from NL net was ~1k euro at first + quite a lot more in regard to the boston conference? [23:32:23] boston stuff was never paid to cacert inc [23:32:31] it was reimburst to individuals directly [23:32:33] I move to accept the financial report as is [23:32:41] seconded [23:32:42] second [23:33:30] have Nathan's objections been addressed? [23:33:54] he doesn't have valid objects to be addressed in the matter he's describing [23:33:58] objections [23:34:46] seconded [23:34:50] NathanReilly: every transaction that touched CAcert is included in the report (including the $AUD1620.50 donation from NLNet) [23:35:22] NathanReilly nods [23:35:34] infrastructure is spelt incorrectly [23:35:34] then I vote aye [23:36:02] NathanReilly: it was a rush job to forfil the requirements of the association rules/laws [23:36:13] NathanReilly nods [23:36:47] Motion: close the meeting [23:36:54] seconded [23:36:58] yes [23:36:59] no vote on financial? [23:37:09] WrenHunt_: didn't think it needed one [23:37:14] WrenHunt_, I thought you voted "aye"? [23:37:21] i did. what about others? [23:37:26] calummorrell: noone else did. [23:37:38] we do need to vote to accept the report [23:37:42] yes -> report, yes -> close meeting [23:37:43] all motions must vote, right? [23:37:47] NathanReilly, I see at least 4 that did [23:38:05] calummorrell: seconding isn't voting as far as i'm aware [23:38:07] i see "seconded"s. Not ayes/nays [23:38:31] let's just vote on accepting the financial report first [23:38:33] yes [23:38:36] yes [23:38:38] abstain [23:38:39] yes [23:38:40] yes [23:38:40] yes [23:38:47] aye [23:38:56] yes [23:38:57] i declare the report motion carried [23:39:36] motion: I move to close the meeting [23:39:43] seconded [23:39:43] seconded [23:39:46] yes [23:39:49] aye [23:39:51] aye [23:39:51] yes [23:39:51] ye [23:39:51] yes [23:39:54] *aye [23:39:56] yes [23:40:06] i declare the motion carried, and the meeting is now closed [23:40:16] thank you to everyone that attended [23:40:20] thx all! [23:40:36] thanks everyone [23:40:39] thx, board ### Log session terminated at Sat 21. Aug 23:43:00 2004 ###